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Ryanair Fees Challenged in Court

Monday July 13, 2009

Ryanair's infamous fees have been challenged by a Berlin court, spelling a possible end to at least one of their extra charges - the credit card fee.

According to an article in the UK's Daily Telegraph ('Ryanair loses handling charges case'), the German Superior Court of Justice ruled that the credit card fee is illegal as passengers do not have a free alternative.

Ryanair have responded by saying that passengers do have another payment option, namely a Visa Electron card. They made a similar point to me when I asked about Ryanair's Credit Card Fees. But I found that Visa Electron cards are very difficult to come by for most citizens; getting one usually requires changing banks. Clearly the German court agrees with me: taking a trip into town, applying for a new bank account and waiting for your new Electron card to arrive does not constitute another method of payment.

Could this ruling mean the end of Ryanair's credit card fee? And might it cause the unraveling of their other dubious fees, such as their mandatory Online Check-in Fee? Only time will tell.

In the meantime, read more about Ryanair Fees.

Comments
July 13, 2009 at 7:58 pm
(1) RYANERO says:

I saw this blog and i just regreet that this journalist don’t see what change Ryanair is making in passengers life. People who fly ryanair are passengers who couldn’t fly. Sometimes they fly for 10 euros all taxes included and I did five times.
I regret that sometimes journalist like this ones that comes with bad faith because they aren’t imparcial and i did saw some having arrogant attitudes onboard of flights thinking that they can do everything.
So just read terms and conditions of Ryanair and you will be satisfied with the company That is:
largest airline in international passengers
N 1 in ON TIME arrivals in EUROPE
60000000 MILLION passengers carried
so If yr not satisfied change to another one DONT BE BAD FAITH PERSON

July 13, 2009 at 8:09 pm
(2) PJ says:

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Ryanair give cheap fares to one person because they’ve stung someone else.

If they’re so great, why don’t they just include their charges in the main fare? I’ll tell you – because they make money from this subtle lie.

I don’t hate Ryanair – but I do hate their apologists. Congratulations on being clever enough to not pay the extras. But no airline can survive off 10 euro fares – its all the people who get stung that are paying for your flights. You should be ashamed!

July 13, 2009 at 8:12 pm
(3) Damian says:

Ryanero – I dispelled the myth of Ryanair’s punctuality here. http://gospain.about.com/b/2009/07/01/ryanair-british-airways.htm

I’m glad you are getting the cheap fares. Keep on flying with them then!

July 14, 2009 at 3:01 pm
(4) simple123 says:

I have started this campaign of important regulation changes towards the credit card charges here in GB.
In germany, according to the german consumer organisation VZBV, there is a charge of 40 to 100 euro per year for the Visa Electron card and difficult to get hold of. you can read more here including the public court order (download/right) from the VZBV germany(in german, use google translate):
http://www.vzbv.de/start/index.php?page=themen&bereichs_id=7&themen_id=59&klag_id=604&subthemen_id=&task=klagen

July 15, 2009 at 5:40 am
(5) F E Mattimoe says:

Elsewhere within this general blog/site you have a recommendation/invitation to complain to the UK Office of Fair Trade about the “Cowboy outfit.” You give the appropriate email address there.

And once you have fired off the email to the OFT?

What next?

¡Silence!

Ryanair make monkeys of all EU passenger rules, especially EU261/2004 on compensation for flights which don´t run and also obliging airlines to look after passengers whom they leave stranded overnight…for days on end, which is useless and is openly ridiculed by Eireflot.

“Thank god, however, they obey ALL the rules on safety and maintenance.”

July 15, 2009 at 5:46 am
(6) Damian says:

F E: I know that the OFT receives a lot of complaints and cannot reply to every email or letter.

However, they have assured me that they record all complaints.

Read the blogs F E is referring to:

Ryanair, Online Check-In Fees, the Office of Fair Trading and ‘Fixed Non-Optional Costs’

Ryanair and Non-Optional Fixed Costs – the Office of Fair Trading Responds

July 15, 2009 at 12:09 pm
(7) roman says:

I don’t if it means the end of these practices, we can only wish that for the customers, but one thing is for sure: it’s been a long time since Ryanair has been at the edge of legality.

Last year, the Times published an article about this:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article5163127.ece

July 16, 2009 at 6:09 pm
(8) F E Mattimoe says:

In my earlier post I asked what happens once the OFT have received the complaints and I suggested an answer: ¡Silence!

You now seek to re-assure me.

They keep a file of complaints apparently.

Should I be re-assured by that?

Re-assured that they don´t tear up or delete them?

The latter might be perceived as more open, more honest and more realistic as to what OFT or any other official body plans to do, rather than “filing them.”

What is the purpose of filing them, when nothing ever seems to be done about Ryanair, the free-booting ultra-capitalist airline with a very nice little earner of a sideline in European local and regional government subsidy, but total contempt for the mugs who buy the very expensive tickets ?

July 17, 2009 at 6:22 pm
(9) simple 123 says:

My campaign against the extra charges on creditcard now sparked big discussions here in GB.
The latest news were the BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8156085.stm
but unfortunately, they have not told the british public about the german court order against ryan air and also had a person this morning on breakfast ( i believe it was thomas cook related person)recommending to use the visa electron or opening new account with other banks in order to get the visa electron card to avoid the extra charges. this is another way of tricking customers.

July 23, 2009 at 7:35 am
(10) gospain says:

Well, F E, as we can see, things ARE being done. So someone IS listening. Ryanair have been found guilty of a number of practices over the years.

Yes, a little faith is necessary. But if you don’t trust the organizations and bodies in place to safeguard your wellbeing, you are entitled to that cynicism, but what are you going to do instead of write to them?

July 31, 2009 at 2:19 am
(11) Chris says:

I’m personally glad that this has come about… I find Ryanair’s fee system to be a bit misleading and there are times that my ticket has cost me double or even triple the price that it started out as after all the “hidden fees.” We’ll have to see if they make any real changes.

July 31, 2009 at 7:01 am
(12) F E Mattimoe says:

The difference between “a little faith” and “a wilderness of credulity” is self evident.

Well it is to me, at least.

I enclose a link to yet another branch of the UK government which SHOULD be protecting passengers…but patently isn´t.

http://www.auc.org.uk/docs/306/AUC%20Annual%20report%202008-2009.pdf

Read what it says around page 7 (internal numbering) of achieving 60/128 compensation payments out of a registered pool of almost 2000 complaints EACH YEAR and you will know this is just a joke.They observe, with a naivete which would make even George Dixon wince, that the airlines always claim that their cancellaions are due to exceptional circumstances.

A joke perpetrated on the paying public. By the airlines. Most especially by “the no class airline.” (Many of whose customers, as evidenced by the nature and contents of some of the posts here, are not capable for a multitude of reasons of pursuing a long and complicated action for redress. Which is already virtually hopeless from the outset when the relevant UK authorities are only too willing to accept the nonsense excuses of the airlines, to compile lists of complaints and to DO very very very little more.)

October 14, 2009 at 11:21 am
(13) visa electron shops says:

Not everyone has got Visa Electron to skip Ryanair’s charges! But if that is the only way, then I suggest everyone to get a simple prepaid visa electron card to use when buying Ryanair tickets.

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